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		<title>By: Darrin @ SuccessfulCatholic.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrin @ SuccessfulCatholic.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed this article.  I personally struggle often with how much I should make my faith known in my work.  (I&#039;m an entrepreneur and writer of information products.)  I think it&#039;s something we all deal with, no matter what vocation we choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed this article.  I personally struggle often with how much I should make my faith known in my work.  (I&#8217;m an entrepreneur and writer of information products.)  I think it&#8217;s something we all deal with, no matter what vocation we choose.</p>
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		<title>By: amiehartnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>amiehartnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol; sorry Phil. I am a non-hyphenated person, too. You should annoy your friends with self-promotion - if they cannot enjoy it or at least shrug it off, then why would strangers give a whoot? ;)
I have a persona rule that I do not include ANYONE from my parish as a FB friend. A few joined me on twitter, but there is much less *evidence* of my occasional misbehavior in pithy text messages ;)
You guys (Max, Phil) are a great blessing to the BH audience. Keep on keepin on, guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol; sorry Phil. I am a non-hyphenated person, too. You should annoy your friends with self-promotion &#8211; if they cannot enjoy it or at least shrug it off, then why would strangers give a whoot? ;)<br />
I have a persona rule that I do not include ANYONE from my parish as a FB friend. A few joined me on twitter, but there is much less *evidence* of my occasional misbehavior in pithy text messages ;)<br />
You guys (Max, Phil) are a great blessing to the BH audience. Keep on keepin on, guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Fox Rose</title>
		<link>http://bustedhalo.com/features/back-from-vocation/comment-page-1#comment-5962</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Fox Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No hyphen, Amie; that&#039;s my middle name, don&#039;t wear it out. :-) But what I was going to say is that those are real friends on Facebook. I have only friended a handful of people I don&#039;t know, and it&#039;s because they asked or we had some real connection and it made sense. Twitter and mass email are where I send out notices of new work. (I post on Facebook too, but I try not to overdo it. I don&#039;t want to annoy my friends with self-promotion.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No hyphen, Amie; that&#8217;s my middle name, don&#8217;t wear it out. :-) But what I was going to say is that those are real friends on Facebook. I have only friended a handful of people I don&#8217;t know, and it&#8217;s because they asked or we had some real connection and it made sense. Twitter and mass email are where I send out notices of new work. (I post on Facebook too, but I try not to overdo it. I don&#8217;t want to annoy my friends with self-promotion.)</p>
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		<title>By: Max Lindenman</title>
		<link>http://bustedhalo.com/features/back-from-vocation/comment-page-1#comment-5961</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Lindenman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 02:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doggone it, I believe I will.  I actually did keep an FB page for a while, but I took it down when I kept on getting friend requests from people I had hoped would remain out of my life for good.  

Maybe I&#039;ll add a boldened warning along the lines of: &quot;If I knew you in high school, GO AWAY NOW.&quot;

I cover Phoenix&#039;s Catholic beat for Examiner.com.  You&#039;re certainly welcome to visit and check out my stuff, if you find yourself with some free time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doggone it, I believe I will.  I actually did keep an FB page for a while, but I took it down when I kept on getting friend requests from people I had hoped would remain out of my life for good.  </p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll add a boldened warning along the lines of: &#8220;If I knew you in high school, GO AWAY NOW.&#8221;</p>
<p>I cover Phoenix&#8217;s Catholic beat for Examiner.com.  You&#8217;re certainly welcome to visit and check out my stuff, if you find yourself with some free time.</p>
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		<title>By: amiehartnett</title>
		<link>http://bustedhalo.com/features/back-from-vocation/comment-page-1#comment-5960</link>
		<dc:creator>amiehartnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil Fox-Rose has like a zillion *friends* on FB; you should start up a page and market your work there. It certainly couldn&#039;t hurt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Fox-Rose has like a zillion *friends* on FB; you should start up a page and market your work there. It certainly couldn&#8217;t hurt!</p>
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		<title>By: amiehartnett</title>
		<link>http://bustedhalo.com/features/back-from-vocation/comment-page-1#comment-5959</link>
		<dc:creator>amiehartnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got that right! I am a former editor/writer; now I just publish for free via volunteer work, in my parish and greater community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got that right! I am a former editor/writer; now I just publish for free via volunteer work, in my parish and greater community.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Lindenman</title>
		<link>http://bustedhalo.com/features/back-from-vocation/comment-page-1#comment-5958</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Lindenman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not, no. I comment frequently because I figure most writers enjoy getting feedback as much as I do.  As we all agree on this very page, no one gets into the gig for the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not, no. I comment frequently because I figure most writers enjoy getting feedback as much as I do.  As we all agree on this very page, no one gets into the gig for the money.</p>
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		<title>By: amiehartnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>amiehartnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max -

I keep seeing your comments everywhere here on BH. Are you on FB?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max -</p>
<p>I keep seeing your comments everywhere here on BH. Are you on FB?</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Franciscan, I found your comments regarding us too true. I found your writing tone engaging and funny, so best of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Franciscan, I found your comments regarding us too true. I found your writing tone engaging and funny, so best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Lindenman</title>
		<link>http://bustedhalo.com/features/back-from-vocation/comment-page-1#comment-5933</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Lindenman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much, Kaya and Jan.  Kaya: You&#039;re right that writing is a calling, and a very hard one to follow.  Whoever said, &quot;If you are fit for any other kind of work, do it,&quot; knew what he was talking about it.

Jan:  I&#039;ll definitely pray for charity; I appreciate your help.  By the way, I left a comment on your blog, suggesting a story you might pitch.

Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much, Kaya and Jan.  Kaya: You&#8217;re right that writing is a calling, and a very hard one to follow.  Whoever said, &#8220;If you are fit for any other kind of work, do it,&#8221; knew what he was talking about it.</p>
<p>Jan:  I&#8217;ll definitely pray for charity; I appreciate your help.  By the way, I left a comment on your blog, suggesting a story you might pitch.</p>
<p>Max</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Baker</title>
		<link>http://bustedhalo.com/features/back-from-vocation/comment-page-1#comment-5932</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh you made me laugh! And you made me think how many times I&#039;ve used writing to discover what I know, what I believe, where I&#039;m wrong. This piece shows you know what it takes to follow Christ in a vocation, in terms of understanding. Now here&#039;s what you must do: pray for virtue, for moral courage, for wisdom, for humility, for charity--charity to love Christ first!!! Be drawn to him! 

I convinced myself to leave the convent for exactly the same reasons you are giving for not going in the first place: for a poor abused girl such as I was, the convent was heaven. Tht didn&#039;t make it the wrong place for me. It could have focused my talents in service of the Church. Instead I&#039;m afraid I focused them quite elsewhere. If you&#039;d like to read about it, visit Please Don&#039;t Ask on http://thewhitelilyblog.wordpress.com

I cried writing that piece, but people think it is funny and disagree entirely with my conclusion and think my life in the world was useful and wonderful. But I do not agree--and I really think you might give it lots of prayer before you decide you aren&#039;t good enough and that it looks like some kind of copout. BS. I&#039;ll pray for you at mass Sunday. (Thank God, I found my way back to the church!)

But forget the novus ordo orders; go somewhere traditional and they&#039;ll make you deliver value for the wonderful life you&#039;ll live. then you&#039;ll feel ok about it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh you made me laugh! And you made me think how many times I&#8217;ve used writing to discover what I know, what I believe, where I&#8217;m wrong. This piece shows you know what it takes to follow Christ in a vocation, in terms of understanding. Now here&#8217;s what you must do: pray for virtue, for moral courage, for wisdom, for humility, for charity&#8211;charity to love Christ first!!! Be drawn to him! </p>
<p>I convinced myself to leave the convent for exactly the same reasons you are giving for not going in the first place: for a poor abused girl such as I was, the convent was heaven. Tht didn&#8217;t make it the wrong place for me. It could have focused my talents in service of the Church. Instead I&#8217;m afraid I focused them quite elsewhere. If you&#8217;d like to read about it, visit Please Don&#8217;t Ask on <a href="http://thewhitelilyblog.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://thewhitelilyblog.wordpress.com</a></p>
<p>I cried writing that piece, but people think it is funny and disagree entirely with my conclusion and think my life in the world was useful and wonderful. But I do not agree&#8211;and I really think you might give it lots of prayer before you decide you aren&#8217;t good enough and that it looks like some kind of copout. BS. I&#8217;ll pray for you at mass Sunday. (Thank God, I found my way back to the church!)</p>
<p>But forget the novus ordo orders; go somewhere traditional and they&#8217;ll make you deliver value for the wonderful life you&#8217;ll live. then you&#8217;ll feel ok about it!</p>
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		<title>By: Kaya Oakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaya Oakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, as a fellow impoverished writer, I can understand your being drawn to priesthood as a nice escape from the grind of pitching, editing, and re-pitching. But a very wise priest told me that writing is itself a vocation, something I often forget when I&#039;m caught up in checking my Amazon ranking. Compared to seeing that humbling number, a life as a cloistered sister sounds awfully appealing (of course, as a married person this is not an actual option I can pursue). It&#039;s difficult to remember, but sometimes our writing can be as helpful to others as fathers, sisters, and brothers in holy orders can be to us. And don&#039;t forget that Kathleen Norris wrote a best seller about monasticism without being a monk herself. You never know what stories you&#039;ll end up telling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, as a fellow impoverished writer, I can understand your being drawn to priesthood as a nice escape from the grind of pitching, editing, and re-pitching. But a very wise priest told me that writing is itself a vocation, something I often forget when I&#8217;m caught up in checking my Amazon ranking. Compared to seeing that humbling number, a life as a cloistered sister sounds awfully appealing (of course, as a married person this is not an actual option I can pursue). It&#8217;s difficult to remember, but sometimes our writing can be as helpful to others as fathers, sisters, and brothers in holy orders can be to us. And don&#8217;t forget that Kathleen Norris wrote a best seller about monasticism without being a monk herself. You never know what stories you&#8217;ll end up telling.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Lindenman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Lindenman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you ladies very much.  JoLynn: Your kind words have touched me deeply.  Whether you realize it or not, you just helped me re-spin my decision in a positive direction.  It&#039;s so much nicer to think I&#039;ve discerned a calling for the lay ministry, than realized I&#039;m too much a selfish lout for the priesthood.

Thank you, too, for acknowledging that a certain measure of privilege attaches itself to the consecrated life.  Back in the old days, when joining a mendicant order meant hunkering down in the Porziuncola (or tramping barefoot across the Pyrenees, being heckled by Cathars), it was a life that would have terrified even Les Stroud, the original Survivorman.  Now?  Not so much.

Amie: I&#039;m glad you found my discernment process as funny as I did.  Most of truly honest pieces, I&#039;ve found, follow the basic theme of: &quot;Modern narcissist confronts ancient tradition of charity and self-denial, and finds himself flummoxed.&quot;  Glad to know someone can stand to read them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you ladies very much.  JoLynn: Your kind words have touched me deeply.  Whether you realize it or not, you just helped me re-spin my decision in a positive direction.  It&#8217;s so much nicer to think I&#8217;ve discerned a calling for the lay ministry, than realized I&#8217;m too much a selfish lout for the priesthood.</p>
<p>Thank you, too, for acknowledging that a certain measure of privilege attaches itself to the consecrated life.  Back in the old days, when joining a mendicant order meant hunkering down in the Porziuncola (or tramping barefoot across the Pyrenees, being heckled by Cathars), it was a life that would have terrified even Les Stroud, the original Survivorman.  Now?  Not so much.</p>
<p>Amie: I&#8217;m glad you found my discernment process as funny as I did.  Most of truly honest pieces, I&#8217;ve found, follow the basic theme of: &#8220;Modern narcissist confronts ancient tradition of charity and self-denial, and finds himself flummoxed.&#8221;  Glad to know someone can stand to read them.</p>
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		<title>By: amiehartnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>amiehartnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed your humor and honesty in the article. Ok, that is a bland sentiment; I was actually chuckling pretty heartily at some of the phrasing!

Would it be in the cards for you to go back to school for an advanced degree to be a teacher/professor? Perhaps in a field related in some way  to the priesthood (counseling, theology, Scripture, etc?) 

I just get the feeling from reading your articles that young people would really respond to a teacher with both your insights and sense of humor. That is a gift. 

Best wishes to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed your humor and honesty in the article. Ok, that is a bland sentiment; I was actually chuckling pretty heartily at some of the phrasing!</p>
<p>Would it be in the cards for you to go back to school for an advanced degree to be a teacher/professor? Perhaps in a field related in some way  to the priesthood (counseling, theology, Scripture, etc?) </p>
<p>I just get the feeling from reading your articles that young people would really respond to a teacher with both your insights and sense of humor. That is a gift. </p>
<p>Best wishes to you!</p>
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		<title>By: JoLynn Krempecki</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoLynn Krempecki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max,
I&#039;m in the business of providing formation for lay ecclesial ministers. Discernment is one of the hallmarks of what we do. 

I was impressed when I read your post. Discernment is usually not easy (If it is, then you&#039;re probably doing it wrong!). 

Discernment isn&#039;t finding a way to strong-arm God into saying yes to what we&#039;ve already decided to do. 

Discernment is assessing, addressing, and listening, listening, listening. 

You discerned your way into the Catholic Church. And we are blessed to have you! 

You discerned your way through a choice between two goods: priestly and lay ministry. We will be blessed by your choice! To see something attractive - the privilege of a certain lifestyle and the distinction that comes with affiliation with a well-established group - and to choose &quot;the demands of the world&quot; instead - is courageous. 

You have chosen a difficult road, but the God who called you to initial faith and then to the Catholic community walks with you. May Jesus bless your creative heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max,<br />
I&#8217;m in the business of providing formation for lay ecclesial ministers. Discernment is one of the hallmarks of what we do. </p>
<p>I was impressed when I read your post. Discernment is usually not easy (If it is, then you&#8217;re probably doing it wrong!). </p>
<p>Discernment isn&#8217;t finding a way to strong-arm God into saying yes to what we&#8217;ve already decided to do. </p>
<p>Discernment is assessing, addressing, and listening, listening, listening. </p>
<p>You discerned your way into the Catholic Church. And we are blessed to have you! </p>
<p>You discerned your way through a choice between two goods: priestly and lay ministry. We will be blessed by your choice! To see something attractive &#8211; the privilege of a certain lifestyle and the distinction that comes with affiliation with a well-established group &#8211; and to choose &#8220;the demands of the world&#8221; instead &#8211; is courageous. </p>
<p>You have chosen a difficult road, but the God who called you to initial faith and then to the Catholic community walks with you. May Jesus bless your creative heart.</p>
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