Comments on: Pure Sex, Pure Love http://bustedhalo.com/features/pure-sex-pure-love-74-god-of-thin an online magazine for spiritual seekers Sat, 26 May 2012 01:27:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Matt http://bustedhalo.com/features/pure-sex-pure-love-74-god-of-thin/comment-page-1#comment-8620 Matt Sun, 28 Mar 2010 04:56:57 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/?p=3582#comment-8620 Gluttony is not the same as overeating. Gluttony is a morally disordered relationship with consumption, and in modern Western culture, there's a lot more gluttony to be found among the skinny than there is among the fat. If your attendance at the gym and the Weight Watchers meetings is more consistent and reliable than your attendance at Mass, you're guilty of gluttony, regardless of how much you eat or how much you weigh. All of the classic 7 deadly sins amount to the same basic error...the assumption that "X is more important to me than God is". If "X" is posessions, the sin is Greed. If "X" is sex, the sin is Lust. And if "X" is food, the sin is Gluttony. This is true _regardless_ of how much "X" you have or want. If you care about it more than you care about God, that's a sin. Jesus reminds us that "it is not what goes into a man's mouth that defiles him, but what comes out of it". Gluttony is not the same as overeating. Gluttony is a morally disordered relationship with consumption, and in modern Western culture, there’s a lot more gluttony to be found among the skinny than there is among the fat.

If your attendance at the gym and the Weight Watchers meetings is more consistent and reliable than your attendance at Mass, you’re guilty of gluttony, regardless of how much you eat or how much you weigh.

All of the classic 7 deadly sins amount to the same basic error…the assumption that “X is more important to me than God is”. If “X” is posessions, the sin is Greed. If “X” is sex, the sin is Lust. And if “X” is food, the sin is Gluttony. This is true _regardless_ of how much “X” you have or want. If you care about it more than you care about God, that’s a sin.

Jesus reminds us that “it is not what goes into a man’s mouth that defiles him, but what comes out of it”.

]]> By: Braeden Weber http://bustedhalo.com/features/pure-sex-pure-love-74-god-of-thin/comment-page-1#comment-2289 Braeden Weber Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:26:22 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/?p=3582#comment-2289 Why don't you just pay the skinny people for doing the right thing in the first place... Why don’t you just pay the skinny people for doing the right thing in the first place…

]]> By: CalHawkeye http://bustedhalo.com/features/pure-sex-pure-love-74-god-of-thin/comment-page-1#comment-200 CalHawkeye Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:21:40 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/?p=3582#comment-200 This article didn't go far enough! It isn't just about what people intake. It's also about why there is so much sugar and corn syrup everywhere in processed food, who gets the agribusiness subsidies from our government, what that does to our environment, how it makes starchy and fatty food the cheapest available (especially in poor communities), where the money goes, and where the political influence flows. I am pre-diabetic and read food labels in order to avoid sugars including the ubiquitous corn syrup. I cannot believe how adulterated our food supply has become with this stuff. What a sad use for corn, the Native American sacramental and staff of life. My friends from overseas all comment on how overly sweet the food is here in the US compared to elsewhere, down to the breeds of farmer's market corn, and even the same brand name sodas for sale. What has happened to the fruit of the earth, to the Body and Blood of Christ? What has happened to our sense of holiness in the gift of food? How many of us even say grace before meals anymore? We need to get back to mindful eating, not just in terms of calories, but where our food really comes from, and what our consumer dollar does to God's creation. This article didn’t go far enough! It isn’t just about what people intake. It’s also about why there is so much sugar and corn syrup everywhere in processed food, who gets the agribusiness subsidies from our government, what that does to our environment, how it makes starchy and fatty food the cheapest available (especially in poor communities), where the money goes, and where the political influence flows. I am pre-diabetic and read food labels in order to avoid sugars including the ubiquitous corn syrup. I cannot believe how adulterated our food supply has become with this stuff. What a sad use for corn, the Native American sacramental and staff of life. My friends from overseas all comment on how overly sweet the food is here in the US compared to elsewhere, down to the breeds of farmer’s market corn, and even the same brand name sodas for sale. What has happened to the fruit of the earth, to the Body and Blood of Christ? What has happened to our sense of holiness in the gift of food? How many of us even say grace before meals anymore? We need to get back to mindful eating, not just in terms of calories, but where our food really comes from, and what our consumer dollar does to God’s creation.

]]> By: sensei ronald panlilio http://bustedhalo.com/features/pure-sex-pure-love-74-god-of-thin/comment-page-1#comment-54 sensei ronald panlilio Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:00:20 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/?p=3582#comment-54 weight should not matter in our relationship with god. But it is written that gluttony is a sin. And that we are supposed to treat our bodies as a temple of the holy spirit. Would a real temple of the holy spirit be so weak to not be able to walk 1 mile to church without breathing heavy and wanting to die. Of course not, our bodies are our responsiblity to protect and care for. When I was overweight, I met a personal trainer and he helped me create a nutrition plan. It was the first time I had ever been overweight and didnt really know what to do. Years later I got certified to be a personal trainer myself. I really wanted to help my mom and my sister because they are overweight. But sadly they never really tapped me while I was working in the gym to use my new skills. But I helped other people at the gym and had some clients as long as 6 or 7 months a couple times a week. We need to learn how to eat, and how to move more often to create the body we want. If you want to be healthy and fit, I suggest reading books on health and fitness. I subscribe to mens health, and oxygen fitness. I also like the clean-eating book by reno tosca. And you can ask me questions and have me train you online at my website http://www.teambeachbody.com/senseironald I have helped athletes with performance, and also helped other people to gain lean mass and be leaner and stronger. One of my girls was so happy cause she was getting compliments on her back when she wore dresses, and her snowboarding performance was improving. One of my softball players had noticed her throwing arm was getting stronger since she started with me. Jillian Michaels and Mark Verstegen have some good books and videos that can be bought as well. Feel free to contact me if you want to talk to a NAMS certified trainer. I also have a black belt in karate. I would be more than happy to help you rebuild that temple that your body was meant to be. God Bless, be fit, and please do tithe the money you would have spent on unhealthy food to your local parish, worship radio station, or nonprofit company that you love, so they can benefit from your newfound health. But in a nutshell, move more than you eat every week and you will slowly but surely see the body you were always meant to have. And be patient, you did not put those pounds on in one week. So give yourself time to change to a more fit version of yourself. When you go shopping for pants in a smaller waist size you will be excited. The other day I had to buy a new belt, because my old ones were just to big for me and dangled to the side of my leg. It made me happy. Clothes shopping is so much more fun when you are getting more and more fit and stronger. The image you had of yourself when you were the most fit, is how you are supposed to be. I dont blame obesity on sin, I believe it is caused by the advertising of low nutrition fast food, poor education when it comes to nutrition and exercise, and in part also laziness, or the person just gives up sits on their couch and watches tons of tv, with beer, chips, french fries, soda, and candy every night. pray for discipline, making good choices with food, and persistence when it comes to more movement and exercise, and read books on exercise, the two magazines and the nutrition books I mentioned earlier are solid. weight should not matter in our relationship with god. But it is written that gluttony is a sin. And that we are supposed to treat our bodies as a temple of the holy spirit. Would a real temple of the holy spirit be so weak to not be able to walk 1 mile to church without breathing heavy and wanting to die. Of course not, our bodies are our responsiblity to protect and care for. When I was overweight, I met a personal trainer and he helped me create a nutrition plan. It was the first time I had ever been overweight and didnt really know what to do. Years later I got certified to be a personal trainer myself. I really wanted to help my mom and my sister because they are overweight. But sadly they never really tapped me while I was working in the gym to use my new skills. But I helped other people at the gym and had some clients as long as 6 or 7 months a couple times a week. We need to learn how to eat, and how to move more often to create the body we want. If you want to be healthy and fit, I suggest reading books on health and fitness. I subscribe to mens health, and oxygen fitness. I also like the clean-eating book by reno tosca. And you can ask me questions and have me train you online at my website http://www.teambeachbody.com/senseironald

I have helped athletes with performance, and also helped other people to gain lean mass and be leaner and stronger. One of my girls was so happy cause she was getting compliments on her back when she wore dresses, and her snowboarding performance was improving. One of my softball players had noticed her throwing arm was getting stronger since she started with me. Jillian Michaels and Mark Verstegen have some good books and videos that can be bought as well.

Feel free to contact me if you want to talk to a NAMS certified trainer. I also have a black belt in karate. I would be more than happy to help you rebuild that temple that your body was meant to be. God Bless, be fit, and please do tithe the money you would have spent on unhealthy food to your local parish, worship radio station, or nonprofit company that you love, so they can benefit from your newfound health.

But in a nutshell, move more than you eat every week and you will slowly but surely see the body you were always meant to have. And be patient, you did not put those pounds on in one week. So give yourself time to change to a more fit version of yourself.

When you go shopping for pants in a smaller waist size you will be excited. The other day I had to buy a new belt, because my old ones were just to big for me and dangled to the side of my leg. It made me happy. Clothes shopping is so much more fun when you are getting more and more fit and stronger. The image you had of yourself when you were the most fit, is how you are supposed to be. I dont blame obesity on sin, I believe it is caused by the advertising of low nutrition fast food, poor education when it comes to nutrition and exercise, and in part also laziness, or the person just gives up sits on their couch and watches tons of tv, with beer, chips, french fries, soda, and candy every night.

pray for discipline, making good choices with food, and persistence when it comes to more movement and exercise, and read books on exercise, the two magazines and the nutrition books I mentioned earlier are solid.

]]> By: Jade http://bustedhalo.com/features/pure-sex-pure-love-74-god-of-thin/comment-page-1#comment-43 Jade Sun, 31 Aug 2008 05:15:11 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/?p=3582#comment-43 St. Thomas Aquinas wasn't the thinnest man on earth, but he was a faithful, strong and intelligent man - so much so that he not only became a saint, but also a doctor of the church! I don't think God's love for him was based on his size. Furthermore, how much you weigh should only involve God when it comes down to all out gluttony - which we know is a sin. If a person is overweight simply because they eat to constant excess and care not about the consequences, then it's a matter of the person's faith being unstable. Other than that, as long as one has a strong connection with God and their community, I don't think it should matter how much they weigh. St. Thomas Aquinas wasn’t the thinnest man on earth, but he was a faithful, strong and intelligent man – so much so that he not only became a saint, but also a doctor of the church! I don’t think God’s love for him was based on his size. Furthermore, how much you weigh should only involve God when it comes down to all out gluttony – which we know is a sin. If a person is overweight simply because they eat to constant excess and care not about the consequences, then it’s a matter of the person’s faith being unstable. Other than that, as long as one has a strong connection with God and their community, I don’t think it should matter how much they weigh.

]]> By: James http://bustedhalo.com/features/pure-sex-pure-love-74-god-of-thin/comment-page-1#comment-42 James Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:57:26 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/?p=3582#comment-42 Agreed John, however, I was merely stating how disappointing her conclusion was. With all due respect to your situation, most people simply can't just "eat less" but need more professional (or spiritual) guidance. A doctor (granted, not an MD but still a PhD) telling them just to "eat less" seems slightly lazy and/or irresponsible. Agreed John, however, I was merely stating how disappointing her conclusion was. With all due respect to your situation, most people simply can’t just “eat less” but need more professional (or spiritual) guidance. A doctor (granted, not an MD but still a PhD) telling them just to “eat less” seems slightly lazy and/or irresponsible.

]]> By: John Roach http://bustedhalo.com/features/pure-sex-pure-love-74-god-of-thin/comment-page-1#comment-41 John Roach Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:54:10 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/?p=3582#comment-41 Sure James, but all of the research suggests that I, an alcoholic and drug addict in recovery, am strongly predisposed to being more susceptible to chemical dependency than most other people. That means I must make it a part of my own spiritual practice every day to turn over my will with regard to these partially-genetic weaknesses to God. It doesn't mean I get a pass to destroy myself. Same goes for people who are genetically predisposed to life-threatening obesity, or any other the other myriad crosses we are called to bear that may have a genetic component. Sure James, but all of the research suggests that I, an alcoholic and drug addict in recovery, am strongly predisposed to being more susceptible to chemical dependency than most other people. That means I must make it a part of my own spiritual practice every day to turn over my will with regard to these partially-genetic weaknesses to God. It doesn’t mean I get a pass to destroy myself. Same goes for people who are genetically predisposed to life-threatening obesity, or any other the other myriad crosses we are called to bear that may have a genetic component.

]]> By: James http://bustedhalo.com/features/pure-sex-pure-love-74-god-of-thin/comment-page-1#comment-40 James Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:45:56 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/?p=3582#comment-40 Hm, the author completely contradicts herself with her (very lazy) ending solution. The whole article is about how obesity is not just about people eating more than others but how it is tied (more often than not or at least enough to warrant this discussion) to genetics or being "hard-wired" to eat more. So what does the good doctor suggest? Eat less and donate money to the church. Brilliant. Hm, the author completely contradicts herself with her (very lazy) ending solution. The whole article is about how obesity is not just about people eating more than others but how it is tied (more often than not or at least enough to warrant this discussion) to genetics or being “hard-wired” to eat more. So what does the good doctor suggest? Eat less and donate money to the church. Brilliant.

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