Comments on: Does the Catholic Church have an official stance on speaking in tongues? http://bustedhalo.com/questionbox/speaking-in-tongues an online magazine for spiritual seekers Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:56:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: tom http://bustedhalo.com/questionbox/speaking-in-tongues/comment-page-1#comment-13278 tom Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:44:45 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/beta2008/wp/?p=535#comment-13278 Let’s take the second citation first. Mary, too, required a Savior. Like all other descendants of Adam, she was subject to the necessity of contracting original sin. But by a special intervention of God, undertaken at the instant she was conceived, she was preserved from the stain of original sin and its consequences. She was therefore redeemed by the grace of Christ, but in a special way—by anticipation. Why is this so important? Sometimes divisive. Maybethis is a cop out to you; but Mary is Jesus' mother. Come one, she deserves our love, but Jesus is the way, truth the life. Can't we stay focused on Jesus'? So one is right, one is not. We will all find out when we get to heaven and spend eternity with Jesus, the Christ. thanks Let’s take the second citation first. Mary, too, required a Savior. Like all other descendants of Adam, she was subject to the necessity of contracting original sin. But by a special intervention of God, undertaken at the instant she was conceived, she was preserved from the stain of original sin and its consequences. She was therefore redeemed by the grace of Christ, but in a special way—by anticipation.

Why is this so important? Sometimes divisive. Maybethis is a cop out to you; but Mary is Jesus’ mother. Come one, she deserves our love, but Jesus is the way, truth the life. Can’t we stay focused on Jesus’? So one is right, one is not. We will all find out when we get to heaven and spend eternity with Jesus, the Christ. thanks

]]> By: Tom http://bustedhalo.com/questionbox/speaking-in-tongues/comment-page-1#comment-7716 Tom Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:56:48 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/beta2008/wp/?p=535#comment-7716 Father Joe, Thank you for your article. I have a questions. It seems that Scripture makes a distinction between praying in tongues and speaking in tongues. In Luke when the Apostles speak in tongues then they can speak other languages. Where in some of Paul's writing it talks about speaking in tongues but also of praying in tongues. They appear to be different gifts and many in charismatic circles seem to have the gift of praying in tongues but not speaking in tongues. What do you think? Father Joe, Thank you for your article. I have a questions. It seems that Scripture makes a distinction between praying in tongues and speaking in tongues. In Luke when the Apostles speak in tongues then they can speak other languages. Where in some of Paul’s writing it talks about speaking in tongues but also of praying in tongues. They appear to be different gifts and many in charismatic circles seem to have the gift of praying in tongues but not speaking in tongues. What do you think?

]]> By: Mike Hayes http://bustedhalo.com/questionbox/speaking-in-tongues/comment-page-1#comment-7555 Mike Hayes Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:33:52 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/beta2008/wp/?p=535#comment-7555 Todd, if you look carefully, you'll see that Fr. Joe referred to both scripture and tradition, which is what we as Catholics believe. I'm not sure what you're referring to here but let us know what your issue is with this. Todd, if you look carefully, you’ll see that Fr. Joe referred to both scripture and tradition, which is what we as Catholics believe. I’m not sure what you’re referring to here but let us know what your issue is with this.

]]> By: Todd http://bustedhalo.com/questionbox/speaking-in-tongues/comment-page-1#comment-7552 Todd Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:53:44 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/beta2008/wp/?p=535#comment-7552 Father Joe, how about answering with what God's stance is? Is His Word more important than Church opinion? This is another example of taking something God breathed and scriptural and putting it in a box. Good grief. And some wonder why there are 45 million fallen away Catholics. Father Joe, how about answering with what God’s stance is? Is His Word more important than Church opinion? This is another example of taking something God breathed and scriptural and putting it in a box. Good grief. And some wonder why there are 45 million fallen away Catholics.

]]> By: Steve http://bustedhalo.com/questionbox/speaking-in-tongues/comment-page-1#comment-6549 Steve Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:21:33 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/beta2008/wp/?p=535#comment-6549 Wayne, the following is from a tract by Catholic Answers. You can follow the link to find out more information about Mary's Immaculate Conception. Also, the topic has probably been covered on this site as well. Fundamentalists‚Äô chief reason for objecting to the Immaculate Conception and Mary‚Äôs consequent sinlessness is that we are told that "all have sinned" (Rom. 3:23). Besides, they say, Mary said her "spirit rejoices in God my Savior" (Luke 1:47), and only a sinner needs a Savior. Let‚Äôs take the second citation first. Mary, too, required a Savior. Like all other descendants of Adam, she was subject to the necessity of contracting original sin. But by a special intervention of God, undertaken at the instant she was conceived, she was preserved from the stain of original sin and its consequences. She was therefore redeemed by the grace of Christ, but in a special way‚Äîby anticipation. Consider an analogy: Suppose a man falls into a deep pit, and someone reaches down to pull him out. The man has been "saved" from the pit. Now imagine a woman walking along, and she too is about to topple into the pit, but at the very moment that she is to fall in, someone holds her back and prevents her. She too has been saved from the pit, but in an even better way: She was not simply taken out of the pit, she was prevented from getting stained by the mud in the first place. This is the illustration Christians have used for a thousand years to explain how Mary was saved by Christ. By receiving Christ‚Äôs grace at her conception, she had his grace applied to her before she was able to become mired in original sin and its stain. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states that she was "redeemed in a more exalted fashion, by reason of the merits of her Son" (CCC 492). She has more reason to call God her Savior than we do, because he saved her in an even more glorious manner! http://www.catholic.com/library/Immaculate_Conception_and_Assum.asp Wayne, the following is from a tract by Catholic Answers. You can follow the link to find out more information about Mary’s Immaculate Conception. Also, the topic has probably been covered on this site as well.

Fundamentalists‚Äô chief reason for objecting to the Immaculate Conception and Mary‚Äôs consequent sinlessness is that we are told that “all have sinned” (Rom. 3:23). Besides, they say, Mary said her “spirit rejoices in God my Savior” (Luke 1:47), and only a sinner needs a Savior.

Let’s take the second citation first. Mary, too, required a Savior. Like all other descendants of Adam, she was subject to the necessity of contracting original sin. But by a special intervention of God, undertaken at the instant she was conceived, she was preserved from the stain of original sin and its consequences. She was therefore redeemed by the grace of Christ, but in a special way—by anticipation.

Consider an analogy: Suppose a man falls into a deep pit, and someone reaches down to pull him out. The man has been “saved” from the pit. Now imagine a woman walking along, and she too is about to topple into the pit, but at the very moment that she is to fall in, someone holds her back and prevents her. She too has been saved from the pit, but in an even better way: She was not simply taken out of the pit, she was prevented from getting stained by the mud in the first place. This is the illustration Christians have used for a thousand years to explain how Mary was saved by Christ. By receiving Christ‚Äôs grace at her conception, she had his grace applied to her before she was able to become mired in original sin and its stain.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states that she was “redeemed in a more exalted fashion, by reason of the merits of her Son” (CCC 492). She has more reason to call God her Savior than we do, because he saved her in an even more glorious manner!

http://www.catholic.com/library/Immaculate_Conception_and_Assum.asp

]]> By: Wayne kirkendall http://bustedhalo.com/questionbox/speaking-in-tongues/comment-page-1#comment-6543 Wayne kirkendall Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:26:05 +0000 http://www.bustedhalo.com/beta2008/wp/?p=535#comment-6543 Iconverted to the Catholic Faith on Easter of 2008. I try to defend the faith specifically about Immaculate sinless state of Our Mother but my protestant friends say that "she herself, admitted that she was not without Sin in the magnificat when she said "My soul procalims the greatness of the Lord; my spirit rejoices in God my Savior". Why would Mary feel compelled to say "savior" if she was sinless? Iconverted to the Catholic Faith on Easter of 2008.
I try to defend the faith specifically about Immaculate sinless state of Our Mother but my protestant friends say that “she herself, admitted that she was not without Sin in the magnificat when she said “My soul procalims the greatness of the Lord; my spirit rejoices in God my Savior”. Why would Mary feel compelled to say “savior” if she was sinless?

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