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What did Jesus have to say about homosexuality?

Ann Naffziger Answers:

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If you were to read all four gospels thoroughly in search of Jesus’ teachings on homosexuality it would be a futile endeavor. Not only would you come to the end of the gospels without finding anything attributed to Jesus on the subject, you wouldn’t even find a single reference to the issue in any context.

In fact, there are only a handful of references to homosexuality in the entire Bible, but they are found in the Old Testament and Paul’s writings. (To put it in perspective, while there are only seven references to homosexuality, there are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of references to economic justice and the laws governing the accumulation and distribution of wealth.)

Jesus’ silence on the subject suggests that an issue which can be controversial and/or fraught with emotion these days was simply not a central issue in his lifetime 2,000 years ago in the land of Palestine. The fact that he didn’t address this issue leaves us all to ponder what he might say were he here today.

 
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Ann Naffziger is a scripture instructor and spiritual director in the San Francisco Bay area. She has has written articles on spirituality and theology for various national magazines and edited several books on the Hebrew Scriptures.
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  • Angel

    Ok homosexuality is a sin but it’s not unforgivable God loves u no matter what !!! in lavidicus 18:22 God said you shall not lay with man as u do woman as it is an abomination.. God is forgiving he’s not going to condem u cos ur gay!! He’s judges ur heart and sees if u believed in Jesus if u don’t then u go to well u no were

  • Bella

    I think you’ll find that most people involved in the discussion here are well aware that it’s not one book, or written by one person, Nomyar. But conservative Christians usually argue that it’s internally consistent (which it isn’t) and that “scripture proves scripture”. What I’m attempting to point out is that scripture often DISproves scripture if you read it carefully, and claims of its inerrancy actually weaken the authority it carries as a record of faith.

  • Boh Key

    I’m a homosexual, and GOD said that its a sin. OK….! But he also said that hypocrite, judgmental and scathing people are sinners too…!!! just like some people here…!!! so I guess we’ll see each other in hell :)

    • JuliePurple

      Hi, Boh Key. No, what it is, is that *humans* said that god said being gay is a sin. If you’re gay, that’s the way you were born. There’s nothing wrong with that.

      • Charles Rollins

        Sorry Julie, there is no such thing as a gay gene – never has been found- because there are none. I know many gays who say they chose to be that way, and since no homosexual will ever enter heaven (Corinthians) God is not going to have someone be born into an abomination lifestyle that automatically keeps them from Heaven. No such thing as a gay Christian, bible thru the Holy Spirit says that is impossible. Homosexuality is a chosen lifestyle, Satan tries to sway people into that trying to rationalize it and people buy into it.

      • sinner

        “God is not going to have someone be born into an abomination lifestyle that automatically keeps them from Heaven.” What about…original sin? According to the Bible we are all born with a strike against us. Never is it mentioned that homosexuality is an unforgivable. Although there are many verses about judging others, minding your own lifestyle…something about sawdust, planks, and eyes. Also, Hebrews 10:26-27 ” If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.” How many sins have you committed willingly lately? Divorced? Sex out of wedlock? Coveting (by the way, coveting drives Capitalism). I’d say its time to evaluate your own standing according to your Bible instead of worrying about others.

    • Jesse D Roberts

      GOD did NOT say it was a sin. The only references to homosexual behavior are in the context of forced sex for the subjugation of one man to another. There is absolutely no reference to same sex couples.

      • Angel

        Yes he did in the book of lavidicus 18:22
        “You shall not lie with man as u do a woman it is an abomination’”

      • sinner

        I believe that you are referring to LEVITICUS, which also says that a great many other things that are commonplace in modern society are a sin. The only difference is that bigots like to use the Bible as a weapon against others instead of trying to fix the flaws in their own lives. I suggest going back over the text and find all of the sins that you are committing, Angel. Mathew 7:3 might be a good place to start.

    • Toivo Paulinen

      It is written For if we sin WILLFULLY after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more SACRIFICE for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Epistle to the Hebrews 10:26-27 I am myself a complete loser, I am a complete zero, I am a complete bonehead. But I know the truth. The truth is Christ. And whosoever believes in Him shall be saved.

    • Angel

      That’s not nice God loves u :)

  • Greg Ormsbee

    God made Adam an Eve, not burt an ernie, or betty an lisa, if God wanted man with man or woman with woman, he would have made it from the beginning. so we make the sin an call it good. hmmmm

    • Bella

      If a divine being created humans (and only those who haven’t read Genesis carefully can believe it to be a literal account) then it’s clear the combination of male and female is required for procreation. But that carries no implicit moral judgement about the genders or sexual orientation of those engaging in non-procreative sex.

      Any assumption that the Genesis account implicitly condemns homosexuality is just plain wrong.

    • Jesse D Roberts

      Hmm, that’s just the most ignorant uneducated statement ever in defense of discrimination.

      • Toivo Paulinen

        Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? Jeremiah 30:6

      • Charles Rollins

        Want to know how our Lord feels about that chosen lifestyle? Read the first chapter of Romans and Corinthians, you will think again. Want to know how our Lord feels about the rights? Ever read of the two cities that were destroyed because of it? Ever read about all the homosexuals that were made blind by the angels because the gays tried to break down the doors to get in and have sex with the angels? How low can you go! I think that settles the rights issue, that immoral chosen lifestyle has none. Why aren’t the homosexuals protesting the muslims when it is their religion that says ALL gays are to be killed?

  • John

    People can do whatever they wish however;

    Jesus is God – He is God in the flesh – the red lettered editions are just words when God was on earth. ALL the Words in the Bible are from Jesus. ALL words spoken from any human being in the Bible are the Words of Jesus (God).

    “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if
    you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”
    (John 5:46-47.)

    What law was Jesus born under? What law did He live under? It was the Law of
    Moses (Gal. 4:4.)

    Did Jesus endorse and follow the Law of Moses? What did the Law of Moses say
    about homosexuality? – Lev. 18:22, 20:13 – Deut. 23:17

    Jesus was born and lived under the Law of Moses, and since He endorsed the Law of Moses, and since the Law of Moses explicitly condemned homosexuality, he also condemned it.

    What did the apostle Paul [by Christ’s authority] say about the practice of
    homosexuality?
    (Rom. 1:26-27; 1 Cor. 6:9-10.)

    Jesus did, in fact, speak against homosexuality. On numerous occasions, Jesus
    condemned the sins of adultery (Matthew 19:18), sexual immorality (Matthew
    19:9) and fornication (Matthew 15:19).

    These terms describe any type of sexual intercourse that is not within the confines of a marriage ordained by God. Jesus then proceeded to define exactly
    what God views as morally accepted marriage. He stated:

    “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male
    and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother
    and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”? So then, they are
    no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate”
    Mathew 19:4-6

    He defined marriage as one male and one female and NO OTHER example. By
    these words Jesus effectively condemned all other arrangements of marriage,
    union or any other imagination. The overwhelming logic of for Jesus to have to
    explicitly condemn EVERY assortment of genders and numbers would be absurd. When He defined marriage between one man and one woman, He clearly showed that such an arrangement is the only one authorized by God.

    BTW:
    Has anyone “carefully” read Genesis 2:18-24?
    From the very beginning, God intended a man and a woman to be together.
    (Hint: verse 20).

    • Bella

      Yep, I’ve carefully read it. I’ve also carefully read ALL of Genesis.

      Gen 2:22 says that woman was created out of a man’s rib. Scientifically absurd. Building a social rule on that basis is even more absurd.

      Gen 1:14 says that the sun, moon and stars were created on the third day. So how were there “evening and morning” on the first two days? Another scientific absurdity!

      Gen. 1:6-8 says that there’s a body of water above the sky, with the sky holding that water up. Another scientific absurdity!

      Gen 1:27 says that God created man last, AFTER the animals. Gen 2:7 says that God created man first, BEFORE the animals. Outright contradiction.

      Gen 1:27 also says that God created men and women together. Gen 2:7&22 say that the whole of the rest of creation happened in between the creation of man and woman. Another outright contradiction.

      The implausible population growth from the creation of supposedly just one couple has also been mentioned elsewhere in this discussion. See Gen 4:14-15&17.

      And I could go through the rest of the bible pointing out similar absurdities or contradictions.

      And still, no-one’s been able to explain away the error in Matt.12:40…

      • kman

        I read matt 12:40. I dont know what your question is or was. But thank you it answered mine. I never observed or knew what the Sabbath day was till recently so now I have been trying to follow it by resting as a family as a whole. But beeing told to not stop doing work for our lord even o the Sabbath day rally helped me. I was feeling guilty because I still have things to do for my family and my dad who is ill. And I could only fit it all in by doing things on the Sabbath day so I could see dad on Sunday. So I would ask for forgivness. Now I can rest knowing that sometimes we sill have to work for or lord on any day and its okay within reason.

      • Bella

        You don’t know what the question is? It’s not a question, actually. The point is that Matt.12:40 contains an outright error, and I’ve never yet met anyone who contends that the bible is literal and inerrant who’s even noticed it. You haven’t seen it even when the verse is drawn to your attention. Go back and re-read it and see if you can see it. Helpful tip if you’re stuck: it’s been mentioned elsewhere in this discussion.

        And, of course, you haven’t addressed the contradictions/absurdities/errors listed in my post which you were replying to.

      • kman

        I didn’t reply to you question. I thank you for answering mine. Jesus led me to find you question to find so error and he answered me. maybe you should ask jesus yo see if he may anseanswet it for uou. Thus your asking yhe wronv people.

      • Bella

        You’re really not listening, are you? I don’t have a question about it. I’m not asking a question. I’m pointing out that there are HUNDREDS of errors/contradictions/absurdities in the bible, which contradict claims for the bible being literal and inerrant. And if the bible is not literal and inerrant, then it can’t and shouldn’t be used in the way you and others are trying to use it as proof (to justify your prejudices).

    • Omgurd

      What about my below post that are about raping women?? There are many more like it. Just because it was in the bible does not make it so. What about the contradictions? Where it says to do one thing then says to do another? Or how a woman is beneath a man? Do you make sure your woman is how the bible says a woman should be? The bible is horrible to women…

      “Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (I Timothy 2:11-14)

    • Omgurd

      Here is your Moses…
      ~Number 31
      14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle. 15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

    • Jesse D Roberts

      First of all dumbass, no where in the Bible does is condemn homosexuality. All of your uneducation examples are examples of forced sex for the subjugation of one man to another. Since Jesus made no reference to same sex couples you cannot assume he disapproved of it, rather you would assume that it was not a concern of his. Jesus NEVER defined marriage as anything. Marriage is a social contract made by man, not god. It existed long before Jesus. You can be married and have no affiliation with any church nor any belief in God. You need to look at your own life and why you feel the need to put other’s down and discriminate against them to make yourself feel better.

      • Charles Rollins

        Read the first chapter of Romans – nothing forced there. Read Corinthians where it says NO homosexual will ever inherit the Kingdom of Heaven – all scripture was written under the leading of the Holy Spirit. Case settled.

  • Omgurd

    (what preachers don’t add into there sermons) Well What about the bad things or contradictions in the bible? Where god and his prophets did horrible things themselves….

    ~Number 31
    14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands
    and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.
    15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the
    ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful
    to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17
    Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but
    save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

    ~Deuteronomy 20:10-14
    10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If
    they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to
    forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they
    engage you in battle, lay siege to that city.13 When the Lord your God delivers
    it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it.14 As for the women, the
    children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as
    plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you
    from your enemies.

    ~Deuteronomy 22:23-24
    23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he
    sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and
    stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not
    scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must
    purge the evil from among you.

    ~2 Samuel 12:11-14
    11 “This is what the Lord says: ‘Out of your own household I am going to bring
    calamity on you. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to
    one who is close to you, and he will sleep with your wives in broad daylight.
    12 You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all
    Israel.’” 13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.”
    Nathan replied, “The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. 14
    But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for[a] the Lord, the
    son born to you will die.”

    ~Deuteronomy 21:10-14
    10 When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them
    into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a
    beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12
    Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put
    aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your
    house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to
    her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. 14 If you are not pleased
    with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as
    a slave, since you have dishonored her.

    • Omgurd

      As you can see, we should not follow everything from the bible. There are many more like this or worse. You just don’t hear them at sunday school. lol

    • Kevin Tarpley

      The Bible doesn’t contradict itself, but it contradicts us! Here is one that is in there however! God knows everything about you and He LOVES YOU!

  • buffman

    And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one’s wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and vthe two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

    • Bella

      And yet, if you read the Genesis passage in context, God basically said “Because I created woman out of man, they *are* one flesh when they come together, and they can’t be divided.” But we know that scientifically that’s simply rubbish. Females were not created from men’s ribs – in fact, DNA and genetics tell us that, if anything, the female form came first. So this is a metaphorical assertion, not a literal one. (Or, alternatively, one which arose out of the inadequate scientific understanding of c.1500BCE or earlier.) And interpreted metaphorically, it’s saying that the procreative sexual union is a particularly special one. What it *doesn’t* say is that non-procreative sex is wrong or inadequate.

      Don’t forget that if you want to believe the Creation account in Genesis, you have to acknowledge that either God created more people than just Adam and Eve, or Adam and Eve had unnamed and unspecified daughters whom Cain and Seth married (who would have been their sisters or aunts, both prohibited sexual unions in Exodus & Deuteronomy). I would argue for the first, given that Gen. 4:17 speaks of Cain building a city. Why would you build a city for only a couple of families?

      • Omgurd

        Yea Bella I totes agree. If Adam and Eve were the only human beings that God miraculously created, where did all of the people come from who were of great concern to Cain? After God sentenced the murderous Cain to be “a fugitive and a vagabond” on the Earth (Genesis 4:12), recall that Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is greater than I can bear” (4:13). Cain then said: “Surely You have driven me out this day from the face of the ground; I shall be hidden from Your face; I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond on the earth, and it will happen that anyone who finds me will kill me” (4:14). God then responded to Cain, saying, “Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him seven-fold.” So, “the Lord set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him” (4:15). Do the references to “anyone” and “whoever” in these verses suggest that God specially created others besides Adam and Eve?

      • Omgurd

        Maybe Cain was crazy and saw things? XD

  • Susan Rush

    “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
    Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
    For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5:17-20 King James Version (KJV)

    • Holly

      The laws Jesus was talking about were the ten commandments. How many commandments do churches break?

      • Chanel Cotton

        It’s not the church that breaks them. Everyone breaks them. Every hour of the day. But only those who repent of their sins, turn from their sins and trust in Jesus Christ will be forgiven. Don’t worry about everyone else sins and focus on your own. When you die, you die alone and you won’t be able to point to finger and others when you stand before God.

    • Bella

      Oh, you can proof-text all you like, but there are always counter-texts. What about Paul’s “You are not under the law, but under grace”? (Rom 6:14). Or Rom.4:15 and 5:13, which both clearly state that the law is not absolute? (“Where there is no law, there is no sin.”) Or Acts 15:5 & 9-20, where the Gentiles were not required to follow the whole of the Mosaic Law? Or Rom.10:13? Or 1 Cor.6:12 and 10:23? Or Gal.3:24-25? Or, most tellingly, Eph.2:15: “He [Jesus] has abolished the law with its commandments and ordinances”?

      And let me leave you with these:
      “But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.” (Tit.3:9)

      and
      “For the whole law is summed up in a single commandment, ‘You shall love your neighbour as yourself.’
      ” (Gal.5:14)

  • an open mind

    Well I guess you’ll all have to stop judging everyone or else you’ll end up in Hell too. Besides, are you the children of Israel? Then the laws of the covenant never applied to you.

    • kman

      Yes you are right we are not allowed to judge else we will be next to them as well so we do need to give respect to homosexuals and we require respect too, that we feel their actions are not appropriate and it is okay to say we feel it is inappropriate. And let it rest from that.

      • an open mind

        Yadayadayada, cast judgement again, turn a blind eye to a real problem and let it rest from that.

      • kman

        And whats your real problem. Are you able to answer that.

      • an open mind

        Jesus wanted us to love one another. We are all sinners every last one. Jesus will be the final judge after this test is over.

  • dan3333333333

    Jesus also didnt mention abortion, but he covered it with “thou shalt not kill”!!!!! Those in denial need not respond! Blow your hot air somewhere else!

    • Nathan Footlonger

      Wow, another Christian fascist.

      • kman

        How do you know om a Christian? Do you know me?

      • Nathan Footlonger

        You espouse what I consider to be draconian paternalistic views and mention god quite a bit, so unless you’re a Muslim I would say it’s a pretty safe bet. You’re certainly no landsman, that’s obvious from the lack of humor in your commentary.

    • Guy

      You know the whole no sex before marriage was because those misogynistic pricks like you wanted virgins…

      • kman

        No sex before marriage was created to keep brainless people from spreading to quickly Would you agree.

    • kman

      he said that shall not murder, to clarify so I feel he doesn’t judge those who have been raped but will reward them after able to deal with what has happened to them other than that abortion for selfish reasons is murder therefore is not allowed.

    • Bella

      No-one has yet replied to my point of a few months ago: that the whole “marriage was between a man and a woman only” thing is from Genesis. And Genesis was written (at the very least, using a young earth doctrine) some 2500 years after Creation. So how can you possibly claim that it’s anything other than social myth?

      Understanding that the law (any law, but including the Law) is actually created *by* a culture in order to protect and perpetuate the culture brings a completely different perspective to the whole debate. In a culture such as the Israelite one, which had high infant mortality and short lifespan, regulations which protected the living members, encouraged fertility (by restricting sexual activity to male-female procreative couples), and protected the wealth of the community (by restricting foreigners from inheritance), make perfect sense.

      But we now live in a very different world. It’s simply anachronistic to insist on the same laws where those are no longer necessary. Indeed, protection of our existence would be more adequately served by *encouraging* non-procreative sexual partnerships, given the appalling overpopulation of the earth (which, in the space of about 40 years, has nearly doubled from 4 billion to well over 7 billion).

    • Jesse D Roberts

      Blatantly changing the words in the Bible for your own justification is called BLASPHEMY!!!

  • Linda Rain

    Also, What about a baby that is born a hermaphrodite (with both female and
    male organs)? that is still God’s child, what is considered sinful behavior for
    them? In the olden days, they would have thrown that innocent baby into a fire
    and called it satan, just like they use to do with left handed children. WOW,
    Imagine how many of us who believe in Jesus, who are left handed right now
    would be murdered!

    • Believe in god

      Judge not,yea thee be judged, look in the mirror if you wish to judge, I am as God created me, he gave me brown, black, blond, red, hair because he knew it would suit me, he gave me tan, white, black, brown or yellow skin because as with the colors of the flowers, god knew all colors are beautiful, he gave us all a heart to love as he loves us all, he gave us feelings as he had so we can feel when it’s wrong to judge others, and to love all regardless, I am the Mother who loves her gay sons, when he opened up to me, as you I threw in his face, a man does not lay with another man, he said to me( mom, this is why young men kill themselves) I ran to the bathroom to cry, while there, all I saw was a mirror bearing my own reflection, and God said to me ( your judging the wrong person!) I came out of that bathroom believing this true, we judge others because it’s our life, our way of living we expect others to follow, wow! Aren’t we a selfish human, god doesn’t teach us to be selfish, he only ask us to love all and believe in him whole heartedly, I love my son just the way God created him, and he is good, everybody loves him for who he is, as he is, he IS a child of God!

  • John

    People can do whatever they wish however;

    Jesus is God – He is God in the flesh – the red lettered editions are just words when God was on earth. ALL the Words in the Bible are from Jesus. ALL words spoken from any human being in the Bible are the Words of Jesus (God).

    “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if
    you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” (John 5:46-47.)

    What law was Jesus born under? What law did He live under? It was the Law of
    Moses (Gal. 4:4.)

    Did Jesus endorse and follow the Law of Moses? What did the Law of Moses say
    about homosexuality? – Lev. 18:22, 20:13 – Deut. 23:17

    Jesus was born and lived under the Law of Moses, and since He endorsed the Law of Moses, and since the Law of Moses explicitly condemned homosexuality, he also condemned it.

    What did the apostle Paul [by Christ’s authority] say about the practice of homosexuality? (Rom. 1:26-27; 1 Cor. 6:9-10.)

    Jesus did, in fact, speak against homosexuality. On numerous occasions, Jesus
    condemned the sins of adultery (Matthew 19:18), sexual immorality (Matthew
    19:9) and fornication (Matthew 15:19).

    These terms describe any type of sexual intercourse that is not within the confines of a marriage ordained by God. Jesus then proceeded to define exactly
    what God views as morally accepted marriage. He stated:
    “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male
    and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother
    and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”? So then, they are
    no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate” Mathew 19:4-6

    He defined marriage as one male and one female and NO OTHER example. By
    these words Jesus effectively condemned all other arrangements of marriage,
    union or any other imagination. The overwhelming logic of for Jesus to have to
    explicitly condemn EVERY assortment of genders and numbers would be absurd. When He defined marriage between one man and one woman, He clearly showed that such an arrangement is the only one authorized by God.

    BTW:
    Has anyone “carefully” read Genesis 2:18-24?

    From the very beginning, God intended a man and a woman to be together.
    (Hint: verse 20).

    • Holly

      Jesus never said he was God in the flesh but the son of God.

      • Bella

        And he didn’t even claim that in the earliest gospels.

      • Chanel Cotton

        Again. The Jesus has always been around. Read Genesis. God uses the word We. The we is God and Jesus. The whooooooole Old Testmant talk about Jesus Christ coming to save the world of their sins. Like….the whole Bible is about Jesus. The whole thing. You have to read it to understand it. It’s very clear.

      • Bella

        I’ve probably read it as much or more than you. I find it offensive that you assume I haven’t. I grew up in the faith. But I don’t believe blindly; my eyes are open to the imperfections of the text. There are errors and contradictions all through it. it’s not the absolutely inerrant word you seem to think, and claiming it is actually *weakens* its authority rather than strengthening it.

        (Incidentally, the term “Son of Man” – which is what Jesus claimed to be – is actually more accurately translated as “child of humanity”.)

      • Omgurd

        Yes. And how do you explain when they were coming to get jesus to crucify him that he wept and cried out to god asking him if there was another way. Just because it might say they are one doesn’t mean its literal.. It also says a woman and her husband are one. And hun… no that does not mean you and him are the same person.

      • Chanel Cotton

        Um. Jesus is God because He said He was….like multiple times. That’s why they killed Him. Because Jesus is God. Yes He went by the term Son of God because He was 100% Man and 100% God. In Genesis before God even made the Universe He used the term We. The “We” is God and Jesus. Jesus wasn’t just invented. Jesus has always been here and in the Old Testament Jesus was clearly talked about for thousands and thousands of years. The whole Bible is about Jesus Christ saving mankind. That is the whole point of the Bible.

      • Holly

        Why would he pray to himself?

      • kman

        He did say he was the messiah and said he was not at the same time. So Christians beleive he is the god and catholics beleive he is the son of god and islams beleive he was a messenger of god. So you may understand the difference.

      • John

        Jesus is God and the Bible (Word of God) is God and Jesus.
        Jesus clearly states that he is God.
        John 1:1-3, 14
        John 4:26
        John 8:58 – Exodus 3:13-14
        John 10:30-33

        God is the author of the Words in the Bible and He used human beings to record it. John 1:1-3,14 reveals that God, the Word and Jesus are One and the same God.

    • Bella

      Yep, I have. And I’ve also carefully read Gen.1, and seen the anomalies between the two. And the scientific absurdities.

      On a careful reading, the Creation accounts are myth (in the sense of fiction containing profound truth), not fact.

  • Ed Crown

    What rubbish and lies to try and twist scripture. Go read when the Pharisees tried to test Jesus about divorce. What Jesus said in Matt 19:04-6 He repeated Genesis 2:24 about marriage being between a man and a woman. This illustrates Jesus fulfilled the OT laws and the prophets. Most of the legalistic precepts have been made obsolete but the moral and natural laws remain. Sorry author. You just are not biblically equipped to state your outright deception.

    • Justin Clark

      The sin talked about in this verse was divorce, not gay marriage. Probably because man and woman can have children and start a family and broken homes can cause problems. I doubt gays had adoption programs back then and therefore reprecussions on their non-existant kids back then so that is the meaning i draw from those verses. Nothing anti-gay there to m

  • Mark Bailey

    The eunuchs you mentioned were castrated men not homosexuals so you really should study this out more carefully. The passage you mentioned in Luke 17 has the word men italicized which means it wasn’t originally there. The original text reads: “I tell you, in that night there will be two in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left.” You are in error grasping for something that is not there. It is erroneous to conclude that a behavior is acceptable based on two statements that have nothing to do with the behavior which is being discussed here.

    • Diarmaid

      A eunuch from birth is so rare a thing that it would be pointless for jesus to mention it, that argument isnt a strong one ill admit mainly because i read it somewhere and cant remeber all the details, and luke 17 goes on to mention two women in the field grinding (corn i think, not the modern ‘grinding’ lol) so its more logical that he paired two men and two women, not two people then two women

  • A Random Commenter

    Sin or not a sin.
    Who cares?
    We like what we like.
    If you are as to that shallow to like somebody for their gender and not their personality, get out of my face.

  • Cv Pec

    Let the sin begin! We are God, We set the norm for society thru our words and actions. We are the creators and destroyer of humanity. I know no one who has stated that their life’s desire was to be homosexual. It is as it is. God has spoken to me and he said “Leave my children alone. I’ll spank them when they get home”

  • fidelity

    It’s really childish conversation. There are several books, written over centuries, but the originally oral tales are from Africans Sages. As more people got involved the stories did too. The whole thing begins as a myths. Tales, poems, a little history, etc. culture laws of land, cleanliness, and ownership etc. from different regions in African and Asian. Spread from there.

  • Mark Bailey

    Your entire argument is based upon a faulty premise. First: Neither Jesus nor the writers of the scriptures would have used the word homosexual because it did not come into existence until 1892. Second: Jesus did address the issue but not along the lines you use to argue your point. He said in Matthew 19 that in the beginning God created us male and female. That is our starting point to understand how sexual relationships are to be enjoined. It is not possible, as nature shows us, for two men or to women to procreate and continue the species. To espouse that that is normal acceptable behavior in God’s eyes is a perversion of what is clearly explained in the scriptures to us. You muddy the waters of understanding with your faulty rhetoric which lead to illogical conclusions. Jesus was far from silent on the subject. What he said in his teachings makes it abundantly clear on God’s design for sexual relationships and marriage. Also there are four very clear references in the scriptures on those types of sexual behaviors. Two of them are found in the Old testament and two in the New Testament. In each of those, sexual relations between two men or two women is condemned. Why do you want to lie to people about their sinful condition before God and as such condemn them to punishment from him. if you are going to claim to be as your bio claims a, spiritual instructor or director, why do you not tell people the truth that sets them free as Jesus did?

    • Diarmaid

      You realise that in that exact same passage you mentioned jesus says that those who are born eunuchs (which would have been a term used for gay men at the time) should be accepted and allowed to do as they wish (im paraphrasing because i dont have a bible handy at the minute) and if you look to Luke 17:34 where jesus is speaking on salvation he says “there were two men in one bed, one was taken the other was left” clearly showing that these two men sharing a bed was neither the reason for one being saved nor the other being “left”. In other words God doesnt care about your sexuality, he care whether you are a loving caring, accepting and just person.

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