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When did statues of saints start appearing in Catholic churches, and how is this not idol worship?

Rachel Bundang Answers:

Christianity emerged from Judaism, which itself rejected figurative religious art as being too much like idol worship (see Ex 20:3).  But once Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire under Constantine in the 4th century CE, it was not long before Roman practices of portraying and honoring the divine (their gods and emperors) would make their way into Christian practices as well.

Although the saints are portrayed in statues, icons, paintings, and other media, they are not worshipped as God is.  Rather, we venerate the saints, meaning that we honor them, give them respect, and show them devotion for what they have accomplished in their lives of faith.  John Coleman, SJ sees saints as generally having five characteristics:

exemplary model

extraordinary teacher

worker of wonders or source of benevolent power


possessor of a special, revelatory relation to the holy.

In short, they invite to see and relate to God anew.

Asking saints to intercede for us is not idol worship because they themselves are not the object of worship.  We are asking for their help to make our case before God, just as you might have a friend advocate for you.

The Author : Rachel Bundang
Rachel Bundang is a writer and doctoral student in theology and ethics in New York City.
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  • Anthony Bartolomey

    Show me in the bible where you can pray to a saint. Show me in the bible where being a saint is exclusive.

    Why do you not ask David to pray for you, or Abraham, or Joseph?


  • Art Lopez

    Why do you have to ask those that have died and possibly gone to heaven to intercede for you when you can ask Jesus Christ directly ? He alone is your advocate, no one else can plead your case before God but Jesus. Jesus is our advocate and mediator, period.

    • Mori Adine

      Indeed! There is only ONE intercessor in Heaven, the Messiah!

    • Edgar Poe

      If you studied early Christianity your world would be turned upside down once you learned how early Christians worshiped and what they believed. They didn’t have bibles that they each interpreted to themselves they depending on the teaching of Christmas to the apostles. Christmas left us ONE church and it is not the protestant church.

  • ramkumar ramanathan

    Before accusing Catholic faith (satan also accuser find it from the bible) if your faith is strong watch the intercession of saints by karlo broussard this is a challenge only if your faith is strong and if you are not proud and obedient watch it and comment. First of we should not divorce this is very clear in bible and we should lead a good example family life very big idol worship is divorce there is no room for divorce in catholic fath .you can accuse Catholic Church but you can’t accuse catholic faith that means it is a beautiful family with order and obedience centered almighty holy god (always use holy ) and the loving holy Virgin Mary our spiritual mother all the saints and martyrs our brothers and sisters and the bodily living faithful on earth.very big idols are pride ,divorce,disobedience,lust,separations,judging others(you should act and show others the teaching of our lord Jesus christ that’s what saints did)all above in the bible do you know three temptations of Christ there devil also quotes bible verses.unless a anointed person (Catholic Church watch purgatory by Marino) who ever loves the world pleasure (saints left the world) Jesus says whoever carry his cross and follows me he is my follower blessed mother followed jesus until his death who can love jesus more than her?jesus says love your God whole heartedly passion of Jesus is very important there is way of the cross in Catholic Church to remember together with blessed mother if you are good in bible find (together with Mary)in bible of course you can directly pray to God but don’t judge people who humbly pray together with holy Mary and saints because you ,me are mostly of the world in our body and mind but minds of the saints are always set in heaven there should be one wife one holy god one leader (pope) one holy mother all others are our brothers Jesus gave his life for this holy god centered world redemption he himself god his teachings are clear obedience,live with one wife,listen to catholic faith (anointing is there) judge not others be humble don’t try to shine even in this post all glory should belongs to holy god of Abraham issac and Jacob.

  • ramkumar ramanathan

    go deep into catholic faith that is not grown in some days it was built upon first Jesus blood and his saints blood with our knowledge we can’t understand the bible unless a anointed priest or church reveals but we can understand the love of God but we can’t understand the church mystery.yes God is jelous when we worship other than God.but God is happy about Jesus and his saints who died for jesus .there is no dead all died in body only

  • Jayjona

    Our help comes from the Lord GOD himself. Read your Bibles and ask GOD for a true understanding of what you are reading. Ask and you shall receive….Seek and it shall be found.
    My God is a jealous God, we cannot ask favors from dead people. We are to only pray to GOD ! Gods commandment is very clear.

    • Barry Foster

      Why would any god be jealous? Jealousy is a human trait, not a god-like one. God is supposed to be perfect. Jealousy is an imperfection, particularly if you act upon that jealousy.

    • Guest51

      That is so unfortunate that your God is so jealous. My God/Jesus is all about love. So are the Saints and the Blessed Mother Mary. And they aren’t dead. They are in life every lasting, just like we here on earth hope to be one day.

    • Edgar Poe

      It’s not clear that’s why there are 30000 protestant denominations. His holy catholic church is the only true church that held on to the teachings of the apostles not to the inventions of Luther.

  • ramkumar ramanathan

    Please all of you read job42:8 saint is a holy man only lived changed because of holy god and lived for others and died for holy god saints can intercede for us it is very clear in Catholic Church and the holy bible .also we should not say any evil about holy man ,Saints ,things eg jude1:8 2peter 2:10 through troubles they learnt obedience they did not talk about world things other than heaven eg1john3:(read all) if we can’t humble ourself before our dear men,saints,holy Mary how can we practice humble before holy god because god abhor pride Jesus says judge not others also he says mt3:8 repent and show by your acts that you are repented not in words saints are prooved through there acts they did every thing in early days catholic religion spread all over the world through the acts of saints if we are of the world we reject saints and catholic faith because catholic faith only talk about heaven (see the film st.philip nery) what you do by ur right hand your left should not know this is how the saints lived.now will see what is the place given to God in Catholic Church there is no image for god in Catholic Church but for god there is a solid place that is not able to express by words argument eg every one have special place in there heart for his spouse what ever they do .like wise we love all and respect all honour all even bow and honor all but the the place for our dear one that is hidden and secret between me and god also the same soul only knows. If you want to be humble think there is no one below you please forgive me and my English I am not fluent in English desire heaven only

  • Janet

    I stand corrected, the Holy Spirit also interceeds. Also I found in Matt 6 vs,7, that we as Christians are instructed by Jesus not to pray vain repetitions as the heathens do. they think that they will be heard for their much speaking. Look it up. By the way, the Catholic New Testament Bible and the New King James or NiV Bibles are the same. Don’t be afraid to check it out. God says to check out whatever man tells you with the Word of God. Follow the Truth. God bless you on your journey.

    • JuliePurple

      Could you please clarify who you mean by “heathens”?

  • Janet

    The Bible says the Jesus is our intercessor, it mentions no one else. Is out triune God so small that He needs help? I can’t believe that; He is capable of doing everything Himself. After all, the Holy Spirit within us knows our deepest concerns, Is He not God?

    • Mori Adine

      The Holy Spirit isn’t deity. There is no evidence for it anywhere in scripture.

      Neither is Christ. To assume that He is deity is to also assume that the Apostles and other Christians are deity since it is written in John 17:21 that the oneness of the Father and the Son is identical to the oneness between the Christians, furtheremore the Christians are also one with the Father and the Son. It is best to see this as an indication of unity in thought and action not in nature.

  • gooder1

    Originally only 8 verses, or at least that is the what it seems. However, one would assume there was more. The final verses appeared late, but the Church accepts them as inspired.

  • noni

    To anybody who is an apologist from the christian faith: How many verses are there in chapter 16 of the gospel of Mark?

  • Sunny F Nwodo

    I am a catholic, but, i do believe that christ is the intercessor, to ask the saints to pray for us is idolatry. in the gospel of matthew (17:4) the transfiguration of jesus. peter sought permission to make shrine’s, one for christ, one for moses and another for elijah. but was only told to listen to christ as the one God is pleased with.

    • guest

      If you believe that Sunny, then you do not understand your faith at all. There is no idolatry in the Catholic church, ever. You should speak to your pastor about this, because you clearly do not understand your faith.

      • Mori Adine

        No one stops to think,

        no one has the knowledge or understanding to say,

        “Half of it I used for fuel;

        I even baked bread over its coals,

        I roasted meat and I ate.

        Shall I make a detestable thing from what is left?

        Shall I bow down to a block of wood?”

    • Paulo Miguel Perez

      no. we are not worshipping saints. we‘re asking a favor to them. to help us pray. so if i’m asking a favor from you, am i worshipping you?

      • Janet

        Paulo, the difference is that they are dead and I am not. Their purpose on Earth has been accomplished for God, now He gives them peace. I am still here to fulfill my purpose, to ask The Lord to help you.

      • crash1992

        They are dead. They are closer to God. We ask them to help us, to pray for us.

        They are like our friends in heaven. We ask them to pray for us and help us just as we ask our friends on earth to do the same.

      • Guest

        Everything must be check to the bible. We see they are dead. In the bible, the people who are dead is consider sleep. ANYONE who dead.

        And Jesus said only He the only One intercessor for us to the Heavenly Father.
        And you still ask help to pray by the dead..
        Why don’t you ask pray to the Abraham, Ishak, Jacob, Moses. that in the bible. No, because they are dead.

        In the last judgement day, perhaps Lord will say ” Why you pray to the dead ? Do I not enough for you ? In the bible, did i ever told you to ask prayer from the dead ? ”
        In that time too you will understand.

        May your spiritual eyes be open and your heart be enlighten.

      • charlotte

        If you want an interssion to God, why not ask your guardian angel, this is what i do.

      • Robin Joseph

        Read and understand The Gospel of Luke (Luke 16:19–31)

      • Mori Adine

        Dead people are dead.

        When the body dies the soul (which contains your consciousness) goes with it while the spirit (or life energy) goes to Heaven.

      • Edgar Poe

        There more alive than you read your bible

      • chris ford

        If you’re praying to them, or asking them to pray, are you not, in essence, exalting them? Can I give you guys a tip? I used to be in that club as well with the Mary statuettes and saints and transfiguration, it never felt right… Pray to the Heavenly Father (that made you, the real one), in Jesus’ name. May the blood of Jesus be plead over you and the congregation with the love of the Lord Jesus. Bind and cast out doctrines of men, and you’ll come to see they’re the very doctrines of devils spoken of in 2 Timothy.

        As for the Mary doctrine or (Isis).
        “There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!”35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.” Mark 3:31-35

        If you ask me a ‘favor’ like an ‘Orthodox’ would a ‘saint’ (as we are all called to be priests and saints) I’d tell you to ask Jesus, He can serve you so much better. In fact, I’d ask Him for you while you ask for yourself. Forgiveness claiming upon all (John 20:23) in Jesus’ name. =)

      • Edgar Poe

        You exalt yourself by claiming your right and all these other people who gave there lives for Christ and there faith and believed as the church believes today are wrong. Your for of Christianity has turned into a feel good religion focused on yourself that’s why you think you don’t need the cloud of witnesses around you to pray for you as st Paul describes in his gospel

      • Anthony Bartolomey

        Paul the apostle had a gospel? Are you sure about that claim?

      • Abe

        matt 6:9-13 clearly States to pray to our Heavenly Father not to man. If u need a favor why ask the dead¿ we can ask a living friend to pray for us and ask a living friend for a favor. But our Heavenly Father asks us to pray to Him. If u believe He is your Heavenly Father then you will humbly do as He asks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/guinevere.s.jacobs Guinevere S Jacobs

    @ cj: No one can ever need anyone other than Jesus. Jesus said that “the Father and I are one”, so because Jesus said it, Catholics believe that Jesus is God, as He said that God the Father and Him are one. Therefore, Jesus isn’t the intercessor, as the intercessor goes between one party and another party, He is God whom we worship, along with God the Father, and God the Spirit (The Trinity).

    The way intercession works can be compared to a naughty child doing something wrong. The child knows that he did something that he is going to be severely punished for it, so instead of going to his father first and confessing the wrong doing, he goes to his aunt, uncle, brother, mother, sister, etc to speak to his father on his behalf, in the hope that the father would be softened in heart before he speaks to his father. In the same way, if the child really wants something, he will go to his mother, brother, sister, etc (whoever is closer to the father at that time) and ask that person to speak to the father about the child’s need/ want/ desire, in the hope that the father’s heart will be softened, and the desire/ need will be granted.

    The saints are closer to God than we are, as they are in heaven, so they are in the best position to ask God to grant us our needs, or to grant us forgiveness.

    Do we need them? Well, it’s certainly a privilege to have them on our side, but God does what He wants in the end anyway, so whether the saints talk to Him for us or not, God is the Father that answers. Can we pray to God directly? Of course we can, but it’s seen as a sign of humility when we know that we have sinned, and cant look God in His pure face, and thats where the saints are so useful – in speaking to God on our behalf before and while we confess our sins.

    • Jenna

      The “Intercessor” is the Holy Spirit. Romans 8:26.

      Of course we can seek counsel with people for spiritual help, but for it to be commanded by a church that people MUST go to confession is living a lie. NEVER did Jesus utter a word about confessing our sins to man. Never. We confess to God in prayer. He hears us as long as we are being honest & 100% repentent (not just uttering words).

      • vincent

        Ms. Jenna you don’t know the truth about confession because it is clear in the gospel of John 20:21-23 Jesus give authority to his disciples that whom they give forgiveness will be forgiven and those not will not forgiven. there is no written in the bible that we confess our sins directly to God.

  • http://www.facebook.com/guinevere.s.jacobs Guinevere S Jacobs

    @ Mary: I’m afraid that the only one that is deceived is you. There is definitely a difference between venerating (ie: respecting) and worshipping. Catholics do not worship saints as that would be sacrilege. We use the lives of the saints as motivation to better our own lives. The saints walked in Jesus’ footsteps, even unto death, and we thank them for their great lives, and try to follow by the example that they lived – and in that way be even closer to Christ ourselves.
    The statues are most definitely not a form of worship by Catholics, and if you deny this and say that they are, then you are most definitely deceived. The statues and pictures that we have can be compared to a photograph of a loved one. Many people kiss pictures of their loved ones, put it over the mantlepiece, frame it, talk to it, etc, and thats exactly what Catholics do. The pictures are not something worshipped, but man made items (like photographs) to remind us of the person it’s portraying. Even pictures of Jesus are there not to worship, but to remind us in our daily lives that He’s always with us.

    • Jenna

      Mary is worshiped in Catholicism. Period. End of story. Saying the rosary includes Mary only; not Jesus. (only Jesus in her womb). And her statues are revered. AND people pray to “The Holy Mother” for their needs. If this isn’t idolatry, please tell me what is.

      • vincent

        Ms. Jenna. Mary is not worshiped by catholic.Praying to Mary to intercede for us catholic is not idolatry.Praying is not a way of worship but a way of communication.We never worship Mary as God because we know there is only one God

      • Mori Adine

        Then why say “HAIL Mary”?

        Why does she fill the spot of “Mother Goddess” in other pagan religions?

  • cj

    Why does a believer need anyone other than Jesus as an intercessor? Where is the authority for that?

    • Jenna

      You are right. There is none. That is what the Holy Spirit is with us. Jesus said The Comforter could not come unless He left. Then, of course, Jesus told His followers to wait for the Holy Spirit. (Book of Acts). Which would give them (and us) power…and be our intercessor (Ephesians 6:18). Jesus said, “I am the Way, the Life & the Truth and no man can come to the Father but by me.” I don’t know how much more plain it can get. The Gospel is simple. No rituals required.

  • Mary R.

    I am amazed that people are so deceived by their own words and in this case saying you are seeking the statues help and you are placing honor in a idol of stone and God does need a idol’s help in answering his prayers. This is an abomination to God and the Bible is clear on this. whether you intend to worhip them or not, the Bible is clear as what constitutes worship and what you described as “not” worshiping the idols is exactly that. The fact that the Catholic Church puts their trust in the Catholic Church and traditions of men is another thing that God speaks of too. Sad that there are so many deceived people who reject the Word of God over man’s manmade religions.

    • Abraham

      I believe the Statues of Saints remind us of the many believers of Christ that came before us and that in many instances if not all were persecuted and suffered greatly but never lost their Faith in Jesus.

      For this i admire them and Venerate them for their Humanity and Sacrifice. They are Soldiers of Christ.

      Rachel Bundang, Beautiful post. Thank You

      • Mori Adine

        Then why bow down to them?

        If my wife is away can I have sex with a prostitute and then claim that I was merely using the prostitute’s body as “imagery” in order to properly please my wife?

    • guest

      Nope, you’re very wrong. God said to make them. We use them to help us to remember WHO they are, they are NOT used for worship, ever! The Catholic church isn’t man made Mary, the Catholic church was founded by God. All of the traditions of the church come from God, not man. You are deceived and very misguided, not us.

      • joseph

        Do you understand the significance of the two lightening bolts that struck the vatican when the new pope was chosen? Look it up in the Bible and you will have your answer. It is a very significant message from God.

      • Mori Adine

        Then why bow down to them?

        If my wife is away can I have sex with a prostitute and then claim that I was merely using the prostitute’s body as “imagery” in order to properly love my wife?

    • samuel

      catholic and orthodox are not christianity they are traditional religion

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